In Charlotte, N.C., Police Use Simulators To Engage Community Amid Distrust

Apr 24, 2015
Originally published on April 24, 2015 7:41 pm

Usually police simulators are tucked away in training academies. But in a Charlotte, N.C., middle school gym, a crowd of 100 people watches Capt. Rob Dance as he leads a teenager through a simulated traffic stop that goes bad.

The simulator lets out several loud bangs. Dance notices the teen is nervous, his hands are shaking.

"You shot 24 times," he tells the student. "Did you realize that?"

It's part of the effort to bridge the disconnect between what police do and how people see it. Most of the attendees are African-American, many from surrounding neighborhoods with crime problems. It's not that easy to pick out the officers from the crowd. For the most part, they're wearing jeans and khakis.

Charlotte hasn't seen the intense unrest of other communities spurred by high-profile police shootings of black men. Still the department wants to be ahead of the problem and address the mistrust that is out there. Shaun Corbett, a barber who came up with the idea for the forums, role-plays with the officers.

"Do I look like I break into houses or sell drugs or rob people?" he asks. "No, I have on my school uniform. So why are you bothering me?"

In 2013, a white Charlotte police officer shot and killed an unarmed black man. The officer was arrested right away. His manslaughter trial is this summer. That incident didn't come up during the forum, but the recent shooting in North Charleston, S.C., did. Charlotte Chief Rodney Monroe says murder is murder. There's no reason to shoot a fleeing man who appears to be unarmed.

"What is the process of weeding out those officers that are just bad seeds?" Yasmin Young, an attendee, asks.

Monroe tells the crowd that identifying those officers is partly up to the community. He encourages them to file racial-profiling complaints to police.

"If someone treats you — or mistreats you — in a way you do not believe is correct, you have to say something," he says. "African-American males between the ages of 16 and 25 years old are the least likely individuals to ever complain on a police officer."

But according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, African-Americans get searched the most by police. In Charlotte, Monroe says many of those stops happen in crime-ridden areas. Officers say they have to question people, even if they're not involved in a crime.

Bobby Howard has been stopped and searched a lot. He's frustrated.

"Most neighborhoods, they always pull you over, they stop you, they frisk you because they say you're in a drug-infested area," he says. "OK, well everything's drug-infested. So, if that's the case, you can stop anyone anytime, you know what I'm saying?"

Howard doesn't leave the forum with a better opinion of police but he does have a clearer sense of the challenges officers face. He plans to tell people in his neighborhood, if stopped, to always keep their hands where police can see them. After all, he says, officers have their own fears.

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Transcript

MELISSA BLOCK, HOST:

And now to Charlotte, N.C., where police officers are trying a new tactic to help build trust in their communities. As Lisa Worf of member station WFAE reports, it involves a lot of conversation and some role-playing.

LISA WORF, BYLINE: Usually, police simulators are tucked away in training academies. Not this one.

CAPTAIN ROB DANCE: Let me see your hands. Let me see your hands.

WORF: It's in a middle school gym. A crowd of 100 people watches Captain Rob Dance as he leads a teenager through a simulated traffic stop that goes bad.

(SIMULATED GUNSHOTS)

DANCE: You look a little bit shook-up here, and it's not even the real thing, right?

UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: My hand - my hand is shaking right now.

DANCE: Yeah, we can see it. You shot 24 times. Did you realize that?

CHILD: No, it was so quick.

WORF: It's part of the effort to bridge the disconnect between what police do and how people see it. Most of the attendees are African-American, many from surrounding neighborhoods with crime problems.

DANCE: Let's give it up for him again.

(APPLAUSE)

WORF: It's not that easy to pick out the officers from the crowd. For the most part, they're wearing jeans and khakis. Charlotte hasn't seen the intense unrest of other communities spurred by high-profile police shootings of black men. Still, the department wants to be ahead of the problem and address the mistrust that is out there. Shaun Corbett, a barber who came up with the idea for the forums, role-plays with the officers.

SHAUN CORBETT: Do I look like I break into houses or sell drugs or rob people? No. I got on my school uniform. So why are you bothering me?

WORF: In 2013, a white Charlotte police officer shot and killed an unarmed black man. The officer was arrested right away. His manslaughter trial is this summer. That incident didn't come up during the forum, but the recent shooting in North Charleston, South Carolina did. Charlotte Chief Rodney Monroe says, murder is murder - there's no reason to shoot a fleeing man who appears to be unarmed. Attendee Yasmin Young asks...

YASMIN YOUNG: What is the process of weeding-out those officers who are just bad seeds?

WORF: Monroe tells the crowd that identifying those officers is partly up to them, by filing racial profiling complaints to police.

RODNEY MONROE: If someone treats you, or mistreats you, in a way that you do not believe is correct, you have to say something. African-American males between the ages of 16 and 25 years old are the least-likely individuals to ever complain on a police officer.

WORF: African-Americans get searched the most by police. That's according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics. In Charlotte, Monroe says many of those stops have been in crime-ridden areas. Officers say they have to question people, even if they're not involved in a crime. Bobby Howard has been stopped and searched a lot. He's frustrated.

BOBBY HOWARD: Most neighborhoods, they always pull you over. They stop you. They frisk you because they say you're in a drug-infested area. OK, well, everything's drug-infested. So if that's the case, you can stop anybody anytime. You know what I'm saying?

WORF: Howard doesn't leave the forum with a better opinion of police. He does have a clearer sense of the challenges the officers face. He plans to tell people in his neighborhood, if stopped, to always keep their hands where police can see them. After all, he says, officers have their own fears. For NPR News I'm Lisa Worf in Charlotte. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.