As the world’s 1.2 billion Catholics get a new leader, Dick speaks with an Irish priest who came out as gay after he made his vows to the Catholic Church. He chose to stay in the church - "it is my church, too," he says - and presses from inside for change regarding the place of women and gays in the church.
To hear the audio for this interview, visit The Story's website. Also in this show: Dick speaks with the granddaughter of Catholic activist Dorothy Day, founder of the Catholic Worker newspaper and hospitality houses.